Alright folks… I think it’s time we addressed this once and for all! There have been many mmorpgs out and about the last few years, mostly F2P, and the vast majority of them, regardless of their format or theme, end up getting labeled as “wowclones”. That is to say, copies of World of Warcraft. Now, let me preface all of this to say I really like wow, even if my attentions have been guided elsewhere as of late, and I’m not trying to bash it at all with this comic! Wow is a GREAT game and I had many fond years playing it! However, it seems that every new mmo gets instantly hit with this label. And I say we should put the kibosh on it asap!
So here’s the deal short and sweet… Games like swtor aren’t really “clones” in the way we think. More like cousins I’d wager… But just look at the whole chronology of mmo gaming; there have been wave after wave of new games that dominate the genre and each time improving a little, but at initial release were considered, you guessed it, clones! Heck, wow wasn’t the first mmorpg! There were a few before and stuff like EverQuest were some big grand daddies of em all. So when you look at it from a historic standpoint, it’s like that South Park episode where they kept saying “Simpsons did it!”, because really, it’s all been done before. I guess you could say ol Tolkien was the “inventor” of the modern fantasy set up, you know, elves, dwarves, etc… but more so the group of 5 setup (archer, warrior, magician, thief, and uh, the other one… dwarf? lol… you get the idea). But then, go back even further and I bet you can find someone who even did that! I mean, I always see those cave paintings of our ancestors hunting and I can’t help but wonder… was that retelling an account of an epic kill, a guide for young hunters to learn and grow, or just simply some stone age geeks role playing in their parents’ cave… idk, you be the judge! >)
Anyways, I think the larger problem here stems from the fact that wow is the big guy on the block. It’s not the oldest, but it certainly has had the most publicity and global spread; peaking at what, 12 million subscriptions? That’s a major feat for any game, let alone a multiplayer one! That being said, it’s probably the first, if not only, mmorpg that many people have played (purely speculative). So given the frame of reference, it would appear that anything new with similar features is just merely copying or riding the coattails of this massive giant.
And those features are not on accident. It isn’t so much copying the “wow-ness” of it, but rather, an evolutionary advance. What I mean is this, evolution happens even in gaming, certain things work and others don’t… the ones that don’t get naturally selected out of the circulation. So all those quests, party makeups, pvp, spells, classes, raids, environments, and even the UI are all things that have stood up to the test of time; been refined and honed over many years and games. Some games like wow have succeeded greatly and again, not an accident (well, kinda at first) because many of the features you are used to today have been ironed out extensively through development at Blizz and watching the ups and downs of their competitors. Blizzard did an amazing job of refining their game and it is to be expected that certain features will be mirrored in rival games, but this isn’t a mere copy cat, rather just a continuation of the processes of gaming evolution. Sure there’s a lot of room for innovation, but certain things work and will become standard, and the further down the road we get, the more we will see these features as permanent fixtures.
All in all I think it’s a good thing to kind of loosen up the monopoly a bit… It’s healthy to have a bit of competition! Especially if they offer something unique like say, a more sci-fi appeal, because that’s kind of dipping into an almost parallel market, so there’s no reason both can’t exist together without any bits of hostilities. >)
(and holy cow man, this took a crazy amount of time to draw! gosh!)
Wow, first to vote? I guess it’s not so bad to miss the bus to school due to playing with pebbles on the way…
school at 3am? harsh! XD
I think time posted here refers to hosting, not timezone from where we post in…
heh, yeah I’m assuming it’s set to my time zone. hmm, would be a cool feature to show the poster’s time zone! or obnoxious… not sure which…
To me it looks like SWTOR is a WOW clone is nearly all respects…but I dont have a problem with that, since it makes it easy for me to play SWTOR. Sort-of like how QWERTY keyboards or steering wheel-on-the-left/gas pedal-on-the-right automobiles.
Plus, the graphics much better IMO and the theme is a pleasant change. I particularly like the conversational choice options and the Light/Dark points duality, which WOW doesn’t seem to have.
personally, I’m quite the sci-fi type myself, so having a great deal of similarity to wow helped to nudge me over. oh and yeah, the voice overs too! I don’t know if I can play a game now that isn’t fully scripted… XD
Just because it follows the basic MMO lines doesnt make it a WoW clone. QQ fanboys
lol, that’ll make a nice forum sig! XD
but I probably should’ve expanded the topic because it’s not just confined to mmos… you see it with fps, platformers, heck I’ve even seen it used against fallout3 saying it’s just a clone of elder scrolls but with guns. bah!
SWTOR is awsome WOW is too! Nuff said
also my favrite color is blue
yup! both are wicked awesome!!!
also… green all the way! weewt!
dungeons and dragons and lord of the ring are cool to so………………..
ALL 4 ARE AWSOME!
ALSO who is the green bounty hunter chick?
ah, the Mirialan race… they just remind me of orcs with face tats. >)
long time ago (20y) we had doom clones. doom wasnt first FPS but was best one.
a long long time ago? lol
ah yes, I remember that! and there were a lot of them! not sure which the first was, but I had fond memories of playing Wolfenstein 3d on win3.1!! so I’m just going to assume everything else is a copy; Halo Reach? More like Halostein 3d! amirite?!?! >)
If you think of that as ”clones” , every FPS games must be a clone of another.
Like with many words, we tend to over-use ”Clone” and take it out of contexts. Yes they are VERY similar but in the end they are Different games who use the Similar systems. It is like calling PS3 an XBOX clone….
They both consoles but they are different.
And yea, if I would’ve called those games ‘clones’ I would use the ”Tolkien Clones” which would be the truth.
Besides, MMOs are tough to ”Evolve” without struggle since you are dealing with millions of people who have different tastes. WoW somehow managed to hold on to its’ fans for 5-6 years now and they are using the most basic MMO style.
There are some new styles coming with GW2 , Secret World etc. Lets see how they will hold up against traditional MMO style. Gotta admit though, people look for more in MMOs now. We got fully voiced ones, we got action-packed ones like DC universe Online. We got the old school ones with lots of texts with LOTRO ( which I have a soft spot for since it is …well LOTR … )
In the end, it will depend on who is willing to take the leap and if they succeed well it is great news for MMOs. But I think the current thinking is not ” Lets clone WoW ! ” but instead ” If it is not broken, why fix it ? ”
heh, tolkien clones… I like it!
well, there’s something to be said for sticking to the basics. sometimes the tried and true elements are ones that can really stand up to time. even though people cry that it has dated graphics, it’s kind of like the mario3 of mmos in that regard.
havent had a chance to jump into dc online yet, but I did try lotro… I liked certain parts of it but something didn’t tickle my mmo happy place with it… I’m not really certain why though.
and that’s where I think swtor did an awesome job. they didn’t merely clone it, they just brought over some familiar mechanics and buttered it up with unique features like voice and scifi. but then again, if you look at a lot of f2p fantasy mmorpgs… you could just slap the “wow” label on them and call it a day…
just read this 5 secunds ago…….
WORLD OF WARCRAFT MEGABLOCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!111
ya this is awsome but COME ON! MEGABLOCKS?? REALLY LEGO’S ARE 100% TIMES BETTER!
HAHAHAHAHHA!!!! that’s really really sad… megablocks? really blizzard? talk about lego clones eh? man, remember how pissed you were when you were building something in legos and all of a sudden you had some mega blocks in the mix and were like wtf? ah, thems were the days.
comeon blizz… they even have halo legos for goodness sake!
Tolkien used ald anglo-germanic legends, English history (elves = middle-age Englishs. Archers, forests, ships… Only problem : Good cooks ? Really ?), but also french legends : The Gandalf vs Balrog is a toned-down remake of the Maugis vs demon fight (in the Geste des fils aymon). Maugis was a fun-loving, sneaky magician with sword-skill to put any later swordman character to shame.
my god… turtles upon turtles… does it never end??!!
good find though!